How to set up soda?

SuperMatCat24

I Just make the dir again in src and ran the command, and it gave me Invalid switch - "".. ~~It also now looks like a .symlink file instead of a regular folder~~ Turns out i forgot /d in the command, but i still get the same error when running dir SDL2/. I did this before remaking it and it got the same error.

jstrout

OK, I think we are not successfully getting a symbolic link to the directory here. But I'm afraid I don't remember exactly how I managed it (and I'm no Windows expert by any stretch).

But, in the end a symlink is just a way to avoid duplicating files. Since we're struggling here, I say duplicate 'em! At least that should get you going, and help ensure that you have the (two copies of) the files where the C preprocessor can find them. Then once that's working, we could revisit this and find a way to kill one of the evil twins.

SuperMatCat24

Thanks, but I think i'm more confused than i was before. I just realised that SDL and SDL_IMAGE are not the same thing, and still dont know where to put it xd. That might explain the errors from before about not being able to find sdl.h. I put everything from the "include" folder into the SDL folder in src which seems to have fixed it, but now i get the error LINK : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file '..\..\..\SDL2-2.0.16\lib\x86\SDL2.lib'. Do i need to download version 2.0.16 specifically so that it can find it?
Where should i put both the files?

jstrout

We should be able to determine that by the compile command, which is done in the Build folder. It'll be clearer if we break each path onto its own line though. So relative to the Build folder, we're expecting to find:

..\..\..\SDL2_image-2.0.5\include
*.cpp
MiniScript/*.cpp
compiledData/*.c
..\..\..\SDL2-2.0.16\lib\x86\SDL2.lib
..\..\..\SDL2-2.0.16\lib\x86\SDL2main.lib
..\..\..\SDL2_image-2.0.5\lib\x86\*.lib
Shell32.lib

So, check each of those (you probably already know that .. means "up one level"). Most of them should already be in place, but double-check to be sure.

Then I guess the reason I needed an "SDL" symlink was because of those pesky includes that are like <SDL2/SDL.h>. Whereas our actual folder is called SDL2-2.0.16. So... I think that you could dup the whole SDL2-2.0.16 folder into the Build folder, and name it SDL, and maybe that will work...

jstrout

If you're not using SDL2 version 2.0.16, then you'll need to change the compile command accordingly.

(Sorry for the pain — it's painful for me too; SDL do be like that, but I'm sure it could be streamlined somehow.)

SuperMatCat24

Thats got it a little further! Now im getting this error after putting SDL and SDL_IMAGE next to the main folder:
SDL2main.lib(SDL_windows_main.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol _SDL_main referenced in function _main_getcmdline Hint on symbols that are defined and could potentially match: "int __cdecl SDL_main(int,char const * * const)" (?SDL_main@@YAHHQAPBD@Z) soda.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals
At least (i think) SDL is installed correctly!

jstrout

At this point I would resort to having a detailed conversation with Claude.ai or ChatGPT. Show it your directory layout (a screen shot in tree view will probably do), the command you're running, and the error code, and see what it suggests.

SuperMatCat24

It told me to put "#define SDL_MAIN_HANDLED" at the top of the main.cpp file which seems to have fixed it! This is the output i got:

BoundingBox.cpp
Color.cpp
main.cpp
OstreamSupport.cpp
PixelSurface.cpp
SdlAudio.cpp
SdlAudio.cpp(140): warning C4804: '>': unsafe use of type 'bool' in operation
SdlGlue.cpp
ShellIntrinsics.cpp
SodaIntrinsics.cpp
Sprite.cpp
TextDisplay.cpp
Vector2.cpp
Dictionary.cpp
List.cpp
MiniscriptInterpreter.cpp
MiniscriptIntrinsics.cpp
MiniscriptKeywords.cpp
MiniscriptLexer.cpp
MiniscriptParser.cpp
MiniscriptTAC.cpp
Generating Code...
Compiling...
MiniscriptTypes.cpp
QA.cpp
SimpleString.cpp
SimpleVector.cpp
SplitJoin.cpp
UnicodeUtil.cpp
UnitTest.cpp
Generating Code...
Compiling...
ScreenFont_png.c
Generating Code...
Microsoft (R) Incremental Linker Version 14.40.33812.0
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

/out:soda.exe
..\..\..\SDL2-2.30.9\lib\x86\SDL2main.lib
..\..\..\SDL2-2.30.9\lib\x86\SDL2.lib
..\..\..\SDL2_image-2.8.2\lib\x86\SDL2_image.lib
Shell32.lib
/SUBSYSTEM:CONSOLE
BoundingBox.obj
Color.obj
main.obj
OstreamSupport.obj
PixelSurface.obj
SdlAudio.obj
SdlGlue.obj
ShellIntrinsics.obj
SodaIntrinsics.obj
Sprite.obj
TextDisplay.obj
Vector2.obj
Dictionary.obj
List.obj
MiniscriptInterpreter.obj
MiniscriptIntrinsics.obj
MiniscriptKeywords.obj
MiniscriptLexer.obj
MiniscriptParser.obj
MiniscriptTAC.obj
MiniscriptTypes.obj
QA.obj
SimpleString.obj
SimpleVector.obj
SplitJoin.obj
UnicodeUtil.obj
UnitTest.obj
ScreenFont_png.obj

E:\Godot\GitHub\soda\soda\src>

Though, running the soda.exe that was made in sys gives me this error:

The code execution cannot proceed because SDL2.dll was not found. Reinstalling the program may fix this problem.

jstrout

Ooh, you're so close! It appears that you have dynamically (rather than statically — which is fine) linked SDL2.dll, so it just needs to be somewhere it can be found at runtime.

I think just putting it next to the .exe would do the trick, but here again I would probably ask our AI friends... Such is the world we live in, and I'm not ashamed to admit it!

SuperMatCat24

I've put them next to soda.exe, and moved all three into a new folder, but now im getting a new error message:
The application was unable to start correctly (0xc0000007b). Click OK to close the application. It also came up in windows defender, so I allowed eveything that came up in there.

IT WORKED!!!! I JUST HAD TO USE X86 INSTEAD OF X64!!!!!!

Thank you again for helping me with this as i'd never have been able to do this myself!!

jstrout

Huh. I have no idea what that means. Let me ask: does the prebuilt binary from the releases page work on your machine?

SuperMatCat24

jstrout no need 😉

jstrout

Congrats! What was the final secret?

SuperMatCat24

Just had to use x86 DLLs instead of the x64 ones next to soda.exe! Any tips on getting started with writing projects for it?

jstrout

Ah cool! Yep gotta match the architecture of the .exe. I'm sure our cl command could be modified to build an x64 binary, but let's save that for another day (and thread).

So, yeah, start with the README, which will lead you to topics marked Soda on the wiki. I haven't been entirely good about keeping that up, but there should be some good info there.

Then dig into the tests directory under soda. You should be able to run those, just by supplying them as arguments to the soda command. Do this from the soda directory (the one containing "images" and "sounds" subfolders), so the command would be something like soda.exe tests\balls.ms

Once you have successfully run those, then just open up the code and see what it does! From that, and your experience with Mini Micro, you'll be creating your own games and demos in no time. Please be sure to share what you make and learn!

SuperMatCat24

jstrout Thanks so much! One last question: do i need to disable the debug pixel display? I remember reading something about it in the discord server, and anything i try to run is covered by the display.

jstrout

Um. 🤔 I don't quite remember what state I last left it in. Can you just clear it (to color.clear or "#00000000")?

If not, then yeah, you might need to actually turn it off somehow. I will find some time this morning to blow the dust off on my end as well; if you are still stuck by then, I'll find a solution!

SuperMatCat24

jstrout Cant find a way to access the display within miniscript, but i think removing RenderPixelSurface(); in sdlglue might stop it from rendering. Ill rebuild soda and see if that works

EDIT: Yup! That fixed it.

jstrout

You were absolutely right, that was a hard-coded hack that needed to be commented out.

I've pushed a fix for that to GitHub. Might be time for a 0.02 release soon!

SuperMatCat24

Sorry! Soda seems to not want to compile again 😅 ChatGPT can't seem to help like last time. This is my console log:

> `E:\soda\soda\src>cl /EHsc /I. /ISDL2 /IMiniScript /I..\..\..\SDL2_image-2.8.2\include /wd4068 /std:c++20 /utf-8 *.cpp MiniScript/*.cpp compiledData/*.c /Fesoda.exe /link ..\..\..\SDL2-2.30.9\lib\x86\SDL2.lib ..\..\..\SDL2-2.30.9\lib\x86\SDL2main.lib ..\..\..\SDL2_image-2.8.2\lib\x86\SDL2_image.lib Shell32.lib /SUBSYSTEM:CONSOLE
> Microsoft (R) C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 19.40.33812 for x86
> Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
> 
> BoundingBox.cpp
> Color.cpp
> main.cpp
> OstreamSupport.cpp
> PixelDisplay.cpp
> PixelDisplay.cpp(90): error C2124: divide or mod by zero
> SdlAudio.cpp
> SdlAudio.cpp(140): warning C4804: '>': unsafe use of type 'bool' in operation
> SdlGlue.cpp
> ShellIntrinsics.cpp
> SodaIntrinsics.cpp
> Sprite.cpp
> TextDisplay.cpp
> Vector2.cpp
> Dictionary.cpp
> List.cpp
> MiniscriptInterpreter.cpp
> MiniscriptIntrinsics.cpp
> D:\Visual Studio\Visual Studio\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.40.33807\include\utility(247): warning C4244: 'initializing': conversion from '_Ty' to '_Ty2', possible loss of data
>         with
>         [
>             _Ty=double
>         ]
>         and
>         [
>             _Ty2=uint64_t
>         ]
> D:\Visual Studio\Visual Studio\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.40.33807\include\utility(247): note: the template instantiation context (the oldest one first) is
> MiniScript/MiniscriptIntrinsics.cpp(77): note: see reference to function template instantiation 'std::pair<bool,uint64_t>::pair<bool,double,0>(_Other1 &&,_Other2 &&) noexcept' being compiled
>         with
>         [
>             _Other1=bool,
>             _Other2=double
>         ]
> MiniScript/MiniscriptIntrinsics.cpp(77): note: see the first reference to 'std::pair<bool,uint64_t>::pair' in 'MiniScript::doubleToUnsignedSplit'
> MiniscriptKeywords.cpp
> MiniscriptLexer.cpp
> MiniscriptParser.cpp
> MiniscriptTAC.cpp
> Generating Code...
> Compiling...
> MiniscriptTypes.cpp
> QA.cpp
> SimpleString.cpp
> SimpleVector.cpp
> SplitJoin.cpp
> UnicodeUtil.cpp
> UnitTest.cpp
> Generating Code...
> Compiling...
> ScreenFont_png.c
> Generating Code...
> 
> E:\soda\soda\src>
> E:\soda\soda\src>cl /EHsc /I. /ISDL2 /IMiniScript /I..\..\..\SDL2_image-2.8.2\include /wd4068 /std:c++20 /utf-8 *.cpp MiniScript/*.cpp compiledData/*.c /Fesoda.exe /link ..\..\..\SDL2-2.30.9\lib\x86\SDL2.lib ..\..\..\SDL2-2.30.9\lib\x86\SDL2main.lib ..\..\..\SDL2_image-2.8.2\lib\x86\SDL2_image.lib Shell32.lib /SUBSYSTEM:CONSOLE
> Microsoft (R) C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 19.40.33812 for x86
> Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
> 
> BoundingBox.cpp
> Color.cpp
> main.cpp
> OstreamSupport.cpp
> PixelDisplay.cpp
> PixelDisplay.cpp(90): error C2124: divide or mod by zero
> SdlAudio.cpp
> SdlAudio.cpp(140): warning C4804: '>': unsafe use of type 'bool' in operation
> SdlGlue.cpp
> ShellIntrinsics.cpp
> SodaIntrinsics.cpp
> Sprite.cpp
> TextDisplay.cpp
> Vector2.cpp
> Dictionary.cpp
> List.cpp
> MiniscriptInterpreter.cpp
> MiniscriptIntrinsics.cpp
> D:\Visual Studio\Visual Studio\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.40.33807\include\utility(247): warning C4244: 'initializing': conversion from '_Ty' to '_Ty2', possible loss of data
>         with
>         [
>             _Ty=double
>         ]
>         and
>         [
>             _Ty2=uint64_t
>         ]
> D:\Visual Studio\Visual Studio\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.40.33807\include\utility(247): note: the template instantiation context (the oldest one first) is
> MiniScript/MiniscriptIntrinsics.cpp(77): note: see reference to function template instantiation 'std::pair<bool,uint64_t>::pair<bool,double,0>(_Other1 &&,_Other2 &&) noexcept' being compiled
>         with
>         [
>             _Other1=bool,
>             _Other2=double
>         ]
> MiniScript/MiniscriptIntrinsics.cpp(77): note: see the first reference to 'std::pair<bool,uint64_t>::pair' in 'MiniScript::doubleToUnsignedSplit'
> MiniscriptKeywords.cpp
> MiniscriptLexer.cpp
> MiniscriptParser.cpp
> MiniscriptTAC.cpp
> Generating Code...
> Compiling...
> MiniscriptTypes.cpp
> QA.cpp
> SimpleString.cpp
> SimpleVector.cpp
> SplitJoin.cpp
> UnicodeUtil.cpp
> UnitTest.cpp
> Generating Code...
> Compiling...
> ScreenFont_png.c
> Generating Code...`